Where was I? Ah yes, Anonymous # 356, so # 356 was relatively polite and so I responded as a comment. Then he (or perhaps she...or perhaps someone else), wrote again with the following comment:
- Did the people on the ships have some sort of duty to allow armed men to attack them without resistance? You sound like the activists were terrorists on a mission to attack Israeli people. Nonsense. The main goal of the ship (full of activists) was to bring aid to Gaza, not to attack Israeli people! They were non-violent UNTIL the IDF special forces repelled onto the ship.
- Maybe you're right about the law, but I wonder what would Israel and Americans say if it was Iran (instead of Israel) attacking humanitarian ships (carrying aid) in International waters... Think about it.
- It seems you aren't aware of the fact that some commandos were actually CAPTURED and taken away by activists on the ship. So your words about "their training and dedication, one to the other" make no sense there. Look ta the facts: 3 or 4 commandos were captured (inspite of their training and dedication) and their weapons were taken away. Those who captured them could easily killed them if they have wanted. But they didn't. Maybe they aren't such "animals" or haters after all?
- Sorry, but you didn't change my mind about international probe. I'm sure North Korea has conducted its own probe into the sinking of a South Korean ship few weeks ago. But would you believe them? The same goes for Israel. The guilty will once again 'find' themselves innocent. What a farce!
Gaza flotilla raid was a great tragedy and IDF has the blood of 8 people on it's hands. At least Israel was forced to ease Gaza blockade, so I guess this is the only positive from this horrible story.
I started to respond as a comment, but well, yeah - I love to write and write a lot and so the Blog didn't accept my comment because it was too long - can you imagine? The nerve! And so I reprint it here. My response to a recent comment:
Dear Anonymous # 356...or is it #357?
You ask important questions and in a respectful way, though clearly there is anger in your tone...but I can understand that. I too am angry about the flotilla fiasco, though I assume your anger and mine are for different reasons. Let's talk about your anger first:
Your first point is so many points that it would take me one whole comment just to answer it…perhaps I should indeed switch this to a post rather than a comment, but let’s begin and see where it goes:
1. You ask if the people had some sort of duty to allow armed men to attack without resistance. Well, see, you are already starting off in the wrong direction because the first answer is that they were in the process of violating a declared naval blockade which in fact, according to that international law (which you admit I might be “right about”), Israel had FULL legal rights to stop the ship, detain the ship, and absolutely, use force. You yourself admit the soldiers were attacked and it is clear from the pictures and what was done to the soldiers that the force used against them was clearly “deadly force” – after all – several soldiers were shot…and they were shot by those thugs on the ships that grabbed the soldiers’ weapons, turned them and attacked the soldiers. Once they grabbed the soldiers guns – all bets were off. It became a battle between two armed camps. If I sound like I am saying that the “activists” were “terrorists on a mission to attack Israeli people” – I’m glad. That is exactly what I am saying. Glad I am clear. The videos show those so-called activists clearly preparing for battle. Taking ship railing and cutting it with those humanitarian aid drills and prepare their weapons in advance. As such, saying they were non-violent before the IDF landed on the ship is absurd. Of course they were non-violent in the sense that we assume they didn’t attack each other; but they were certainly violent in the fact that they were quite busy planning their attack. By your logic, we would say no one is violent…um…until they get violent.
2. No one attacked humanitarian ships because those ships , while indeed carrying aid, were not primarily dedicated to this concept. Had they been, they would have agreed to either Israel or Egypt’s offer to deliver the aid. No, they had a political purpose – to break the blockade…and they failed. The humanitarian aid was a guise, a cloud behind which they tried and failed to hide. Yes, I am right about the fact that Israel did NOT violate international law and so your comment, again, about international waters is not relevant here.
3. If the commandos were captured, that proves again, our right to use deadly force to get them back. No, I give no credit to the “mercy” of the captors and among those “activists” who were killed – are those who held our soldiers. So we have two clear rules for future flotillas:
a. If you grab a soldier’s gun – expect to get shot.
b. If you capture a soldier – expect to die.
As for their being animals…those are your words…or perhaps mine. Either way, the blood thirst in the way they beat the soldiers is there, clear, in the video.
4. I never expected to change your mind. The fact that you now admit that I am probably right about international law is enough for me. As for international probes…we’ll agree to disagree. My country regularly has inquiries and many are found wrong. We have already conducted investigations into the Gaza War and soldiers who violated army rules have been tried and sentenced. We are a nation of law and order. You believe it…you don’t…irrelevant. We have inquiries here because this is the nature of our country.
Finally – yes, the Gaza flotilla was a great tragedy…ah, you said the raid was a tragedy, didn’t you? Well, if you insist, I will say it is true – the behavior of the thugs on board was criminal and inhumane. The behavior of the soldiers was also completely inappropriate. They should not have attempted to rappel down, one by one – that was stupid. They should have simply sunk the ships from underneath and as the ships went down…they could have thrown the peace activists some cute rafts and perhaps some sun lotion. As for easing the blockade…yes, my country can be ever stupid in the face of international pressure.
Make no mistake – no good came out of the flotilla…not this one and not the next one to come upon us. The way to peace is not through terrorism, not through violence and not through flotillas that use humanitarian aid as an excuse. The way to peace was, is, and ever will be – talking.