tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4386256495088401444.post3034153247303260676..comments2024-03-29T06:38:52.164+03:00Comments on A Soldier's Mother: Analysis of a CommentA Soldier's Motherhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11370218893899121159noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4386256495088401444.post-2107062649931396242012-06-25T15:14:54.395+03:002012-06-25T15:14:54.395+03:00I think it's wonderful your able to counter pe...I think it's wonderful your able to counter people's misconceptions or downright lies about what's happening in Israel with the FACTS.sarahnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4386256495088401444.post-62736066037578611162012-06-25T13:25:57.252+03:002012-06-25T13:25:57.252+03:00re the claim made by a poster above, that 'Jew...re the claim made by a poster above, that 'Jews and Arabs lived together in peace as neighbours before World War II'. <br /><br />It has already been partially answered, by the reference to the Arab Muslim massacre of Jews in Hebron in 1929. <br /><br />And that was not the only such attack, far from it. '<br /><br /> And there were other Muslim pogroms against Jews, going right back - for example, there was a terrible Muslim persecution of Jews in Jerusalem in the 17th century, and of Jews in the land in the 18th century, and there was a Muslim pogrom against the defenceless Jews of Safed, 1833-1834. <br /><br />For the full awfulness of Muslim treatment of dhimmi Jews, throughout dar al Islam, see Maimonides' letter to the Jews of Yemen, also Norman Stillman, 'The Jews of Arab Lands', Martin Gilbert 'In Ishmael's House', Andrew Bostom 'The Legacy of Islamic Antisemitism', and David Littman's book on the Jews of the Maghreb, together with Bat Yeor's 'The Dhimmi: Jews and Christians Under Islam'. <br /><br />For an analysis of just exactly what it means to be a dhimmi living under Muslim overlords, read Australian scholar Mark Durie's 'The Third Choice: Islam, Dhimmitude and Freedom'. My final witness is a humble Aussie soldier, Ion Idriess, who took part in the campaign that broke the Ottoman Muslim hold on eretz Israel, in 1916-1917, and kept diaries, and wrote a book, 'The Desert Column'. Here he is, describing the lot of the Jews whom the Australians encountered in the Land in 1917 (that is, the old Jewish communities who had been reinforced by the recent - late 19th century - Jewish returners from Exile. He writes, of these Jewish communities "Lots of them have had a hard time from the Turks [that is, from Turkish Muslims: my note]. They [the Jews] seem to live between two devils, the Turk [Muslim] and the Arab [Muslim]. Apparently the Turk prevents the Arab from massacring them outright, because the Jews are a very handy people to squeeze taxes from."<br /><br />Anyone who tries to pretend that Jews had a lovely life when they lived as dhimmis under the heel of the Muslim, has got rocks in their heads. I once heard a Jewish poster in an internet forum speak of Jews he knew who had endured dhimmitude in Yemen until the 1950s. He stated that they would *die* rather than be dhimmis again; and then he stated that they would *kill* rather than go back to being dhimmis.<br /><br />(signed) Aussie friend of IsraelAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4386256495088401444.post-64803022337075839312012-06-22T16:03:02.202+03:002012-06-22T16:03:02.202+03:00Hi Anonymous.
Thanks for the compliment! I love t...Hi Anonymous.<br /><br />Thanks for the compliment! I love to hear that people are enjoying my blog. Yes, I am biased for Israel...which makes sense on many levels...one of which is that if you know the truth and history, it's really very easy to be pro-Israel. <br /><br />Why does Israel "let the thousands of refugees that that are still living in camps in Israel, Jordan, Lebanon?" Okay - so the first question is why you think Israel has any control over what happens in Jordan and Lebanon? During the 1948 war - when some Arabs became refugees...they were put in camps by their so-called Arab brothers. At the same time, almost the same number of Jews (a few tens of thousands more or less on either side depending on whose numbers you accept), became refugees as they fled Arab countries - often with nothing. For example - in Yemen, they were told to get out with nothing - within 48 hours. We took in those Jews...in the tiny state of Israel and yes, we put them in tent cities (camps, basically) and as quickly as possible, we built them homes and dissolved those camps. The children and grandchildren of those refugees are not refugees today; they are my neighbors - next door, across the street. From Morocco and Yemen to my left; from Tunis, Libya and Egypt across the street and to my right.<br /><br />It was our obligation, as their brothers, to give them homes...here in the land to which they fled. Why didn't the Arabs in Lebanon and Jordan, Saudia Arabia, Egypt, and Syria do the same? Ask them, please.<br /><br />As for the "refugee camps" in Israel - I only know of one - Kalandia...no...two - I think Shuafat is one as well. These "camps" are a name but not a reality - they are neighborhoods of buildings, fully furnished, electricity, running water, indoor plumbing, schools, lights in the streets; people walking with cellphones. Televisions in the house - trains running nearby. In short, your image of a refugee camp (at least in Israel) is far from the reality of their lives. <br /><br />Finally, no - Jew and Arab did not live together in peace as neighbors before World War II - that is a historical inaccuracy - google "Hebron Jews 1929" and you'll learn about the massacre and forced exile of the Jews who lived there (and the property that was stolen from them). You'll often hear Arabs in Hebron claiming that Jews are trying to steal "their" land...but if you check carefully, you'll find the building they are fighting about was owned by the person's grandfather or great-grandfather. <br /><br />As for entering the land illegally before WWII - the "law" which made that illegal condemned hundreds or perhaps thousands or more to death by the Nazis by giving them no place to flee. If the Nazis were hunting you, wouldn't you try to get out...somewhere, some place.<br /><br />Yes, there was a larger influx of Jews that came after World War II - and still there would have been room for all the Jews then - just as there is room for all of them today. It was never about land and all about the Arabs not wanting infidels anywhere in or near land they claim as their own. <br /><br />Finally - the Palestinians are the only people in the world that are allowed to bequeath refugee status to their children. Even Yassir Arafat wasn't born in Palestine, but in Cairo. The actual number of real refugees alive today is tiny - you are talking about people who are at least 64 years old. All the rest are victims not of Israel, but of the intransigence of their culture and of their fellow Arabs.A Soldier's Motherhttp://www.israelisoldiersmother.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4386256495088401444.post-19403665432663658672012-06-22T14:30:58.761+03:002012-06-22T14:30:58.761+03:00There will, unfortunately, always be Misters Brook...There will, unfortunately, always be Misters Brooke who call us "robbers". And what we should tell them is what Rashi tells us to tell them:<br /><br />http://hezbos.blogspot.com/2009/10/why-stories-in-genesis-to-teach-jews.htmlin the vanguardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11796434751654291581noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4386256495088401444.post-6782928590327332832012-06-22T14:15:33.716+03:002012-06-22T14:15:33.716+03:00Hi Paula, i love your blog. I think you are very ...Hi Paula, i love your blog. I think you are very biased to the Israeli side but that is understandable and it is a good balance as to what we hear from the Palestinians. I agree that you cannot turn the clock back, the war has been won by Israelis. But why does Israel let the thousands of refugees that are still living in camps in Israel, Jordan, Lebanon. When the Ottoman's and the British were in power they let the indigenous people live on the land of their ancestors. As far as i know from history Jew and Arab lived peaceably as neighbors before the mass immigration of Jews that started after WW2 and before (many as illegal immigrants at that time).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4386256495088401444.post-48989832105715732662012-06-22T05:21:40.041+03:002012-06-22T05:21:40.041+03:00Yes, thank you, Paula!Yes, thank you, Paula!AliasJoenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4386256495088401444.post-84837827725085405962012-06-21T15:52:49.187+03:002012-06-21T15:52:49.187+03:00Paula, thank you for your blogspot. You are makin...Paula, thank you for your blogspot. You are making all of us out here aware. Very good. Thank you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com